评经济观察网采访 ---- @聪明的一叔

对话韩寒:面对愚蠢会崩溃 2012-07-18 10:45

导语:我会崩溃,看到人太蠢我就会。有时候我觉得人的智商怎么能够低到这种程度时,然后就会自我崩溃。

评:能不能别提智商?应该是代笔的人崩溃了。

经济观察网王隽/文

经济观察报:JJ

韩寒:HH

JJ:之前我去见老罗(罗永浩),他称赞过两个人,一个是你一个是冯唐,你看过冯唐的书吗?

HH:我看过他的一些短文章,长的小说我没看。我不看任何人的小说,已经这样好几年了,因为我不想受到其他人的写作影响。

评:是因为理解力的问题看不懂吧?

他的短文章我看过一些,包括一些专栏上的文章,他写得不错,我觉得如果冯唐不写微博的话可能会写得更好。

评:不写微博就会写得更好?这里面有什么必然联系?

总体而言我还是挺欣赏他的。……他还是有才华的,我对他是认可的,而且我相信他的才华。当然聪明人有的时候也会干一些傻事,这很正常。

评:词汇量匿乏,又来欣赏了,这次你可以提拔他了。欣赏、有、认可、相信,你拉磨呀?

JJ:来采访之前,一个你的读者跟我抱怨,说你以前不屑时尚杂志,……他很诧异你怎么样接受这种“肤浅”的东西?

HH:几年前……我肯定没有说过这样的话。现在的时尚杂志在报业杂志里,其实尺度是比较大的,……都是原来南方报业的人在里面做,他们做更多的精神领域的事,……很多文章其实不比新闻调查或者报纸的尺度小。

评:抱南方的大腿了!连前南方出去的大腿也要抱。

另外……还有一些娱乐新闻在娱乐频道,不能上文化版面。如果在更敏感的时候写过敏感的文章,甚至连体育跟娱乐都上不了,没办法。

评:你想上哪些杂志?你能说什么话?能上娱乐档就不错了,你知道有多少人想上都上不去,至十体育档,那您得拿出像样的真实的成绩来,假的人家也不要!至于上不去文化版面,那是人家看得准三聚氰胺。

JJ:之前几年拍过MV也唱过歌,拍过影视作品,你认为那些作品是比较成功的吗?

HH:那个纯粹是在玩。做杂志、出唱片不是我当时的理想,··一有空的时候玩一玩高兴,不做也没有任何的遗憾。

评:你当时有什么理想,除了玩你还知道什么?泡妞to年3个,每个维持8年那么专一,是么?要不要我把6月份《新快报》那个采访再翻出来给大家看看?

JJ:现在有微电影很流行,有公司找过你吗?

HH:当然有很多找我的,各种各样的,但是我没有答应。

JJ:不想花精力在这上面?

HH:所有需要我花时间做的事情必须得是我喜欢的,必须得是一个正儿/又经的作品,……写书我觉得它是我的作品,我写的文章包括我发的博客和微博都是我的作品。

评:快别说文学作品了,再怎么强调是你写的作品也是没有用的。《三重门》已经确证代笔无疑,我连续三次把那贴贴到你家门上你都不回应,你爸也知道,你的铁挺押沙龙也知道,但是你们都不出声,还满地打滚说是你写的,有用么?下次麻烦请在作品前面注明“抄写的”就符合事实了。

HH:我在06, 07年的时候把写作当一种生活记录,瞎写。··一但短的为什么你们看不到呢?因为当我写短微博的时候,就是我忍不住、憋不住的时候,但是这种时候大多是敏感的,我敲完字以后,就被屏蔽掉了。在我的微博里面会有很多的短微博,仅自己看见;而长的会有很多措词,相对敏感没那么高,我的短微博往往敏感度很高,所以那些短微博有很多没有发出来。

评:开始谈写作了,可是还是什么都没有说啊。这么大段落,只有“瞎写”这个词用得比较正确。

很快跑题到敏感度了,就算你是名人,也要守规矩,你故意发敏感信息不实信息博眼球博同情那怪得了谁?7月3日后你发只5贴删2贴,但是是一准删的还不知道,你能把系统通知截出来给大家看看么?你能把那些所谓的只有你能看到的敏感贴截图出来给我们看看。不要说谎,网络的记性比你好上不知道多少倍!

JJ:造成一个假象就是你只发长微博。

HH:对,我觉得也挺好的,我希望留在这个世界上就是作品,而不是那种唠叨,我不希望把那些东西留给世人。

评:那不是假象,那是真相。微博代笔难度太高,而长微博代笔润色比较容易。还有你现在不就是在唠叨么?

JJ:写东西的时候你会如很多文字工作者那样时不时崩溃吗?

HH:写不出来我就放下,不写。我会崩溃,看到人太蠢我就会。有时候我觉得人的智商怎么能够低到这种程度时,然后就会自我崩溃。

评:能不能别提脚商?应该是代笔的人崩溃了。

JJ:你现在做了几个品牌的代言人?回想一下挺多的,尤其是出席各种商业活动。

HH:其实代言只有三个……出席的活动看起来多……我一从车上下来身上已经有20个广告了,一上车车上也有20个广告。

评:不用智商的活,赚钱很容易。真不错!还能记得上车下车各20个广告。

JJ:你是要挑品牌的。

HH:当然,当年至少有四个牛奶(品牌)来找过我,我都没接,我太明智了。(笑)

评:吹牛吧!还四个牛奶品牌,你不是说自己很勇敢么,你说说都有哪四个?

JJ:三聚氰氨出事之前?

HH:对,出事之前。第一个来找我谈代言的就是奶业,因为奶业很赚钱,价格也挺高的,那时候还刚好缺一笔钱干什么事,好像是赛车还是干嘛,但是我推辞了。思前想后,这个东西不靠谱,结果后来真的是这样。

评:看看人家奶业都找什么人来做)’‘告?别看我算你身高X65到167,但从来没有鄙视过你的身高,但是这次真不同了:

人家牛奶广告都是找身体健康高大威猛成绩好的运动员,例如刘翔和李娜,人家能找一个像你这样身材赢弱的人来代言么?告诉大家喝牛奶都喝成你那样?太不专业了。还有,人家真的来找过你么?推墙自己抬轿而已!现在胆子大点就说是三鹿,人家也不会来找你算账的,对么?

JJ:你不上学,会送女儿韩小野去上学吗?

HH:当然会。

评:知道错了?算进步了,就这事儿想明白了。

JJ:就按部就班地念正常的学校?

HH:我会让她上好一点的幼儿园,我希望她玩得开心,小学、初中、高中、大学我希望她读很止常的学校,不会送她去混乱的地方,因为我女儿长得太好看了,很危险。

  (笑)

评:你自己的学都没上好,能分清楚哪些学校不正常么?

JJ:你在她面前跟你在我面前的状态一样吗?

HH:一样的。

JJ:作为爸爸来说也太严肃了吧。(评:问得太犀利了!)

HH:和她一起玩儿的时候当然是另外一个状态了。(笑)

评:逻辑性差就是这么表现的,人家问“状态一样?”,回答“一样的。”人家强调后改口:“玩儿的时候当然是另外一个状态。”

  (另:你还有不玩的时候?)

JJ:韩小野在慢慢长大,她会有许多问题,你会告诉她全部的真相吗?

HH:我告诉她能听懂的真相,听不懂的也没办法。比如路上有一个特殊牌照的车乱开,她要问说爸爸为什么前面的车可以胡乱开,我就只能很简单地回答她,那是坏蛋。

评:复杂的你也不会讲啊,200字短信都搞不利索,她能懂你讲的也是很不容易的。

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